Formation and Use of HH+.  For use in a Meyer fuel cell, a possible substitute, HH+, for an unknown catalyst, HH+, might be produced using a weak acid in water and the Bessler principle.  Each H+ within the substitute catalyst might come from the acid.  The Bessler principle would cause an H+ to produce a horizontal nuclear-magnetic-dipole of NS.  A pair of such H+ would magnetically join together to form the horizontal HH++ with horizontal nuclear-magnetic-dipoles (NS NS).  An extra electron could easily turn HH++ into HH+.  An extra electron could be attached to the oxygen atom in a water molecule.  The oxygen nucleus is induced by the Bessler principle to become a horizontal nuclear-magnetic-dipole, NS.  Then the oxygen in a water molecule (H₂O or HOH) is held in place by bounding it on opposite sides horizontally with an HH+ on each side.  With the oxygen at the center, there could be formed a horizontal string of five horizontal nuclear magnetic dipoles (NS NS NS NS NS) from the (HH+ O- HH+) so that the center water molecule may be rotated rapidly about the horizontal axis by the Bessler principle to rotationally rip its hydrogens away by gravity.  Once the hydrogens are ripped away, the negative oxygen might be pulled away by electric fields.  After the water is disassociated, the pair of HH+ would be available for rotationally ripping apart other water molecules.  The HH+ should serve as a catalyst, since it is reused.

Avoid Stagnation.  As I wrote in my free book MSEHNS and as was advocated by Meyer in his patents, there should be short pulses of increasing slight voltages within the short pulses, with no voltages outside the short pulses.  That should help keep the water from stagnating into clumping strings of horizontal nuclear-magnetic-dipoles.  The short-time pulses of slight voltage (whether produced by horizontal or vertical electric fields) could kick a polar water molecule into an initial rotation about a horizontal axis (HH+ O- HH+) perpendicular to the electric field.  My book (MSEHNS) and the Meyer patents referred to horizontal electric fields but vertical electric fields as depicted in the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkO7Qu-ciwI THE FORBIDDEN WATER ENGINE EXISTS! Infinite Energy Generator) should also work just as well.  The formed bubbles would also help keep the water from stagnating.  We would not want steady electrical fields, whether horizontal or vertical, since that could be stagnating.  Stagnant water would tend to prohibit rotations of water molecules about horizontal axes, which would limit the use of the Bessler principle to rotationally rip apart such molecules.  We must keep the water from being stagnant and forming water clusters of horizontal strings of horizontal nuclear-magnetic-dipoles NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS NS, etc. associated with atoms H O H H O H H O H H O H H O H, etc.  I also suggested in my book, MSEHNS, that a horizontal double-helix vortex-tube for the input water supply/resupply for the Meyer fuel cell could help break up water clusters.  An electron attached to the oxygen should allow that prior middle of the detached water molecule to be detached from the middle of the horizontal line of (HH+ O- HH+) corresponding to five nuclear-magnetic-dipoles (NS NS NS NS NS) so it not be stagnant.

Book Suggestion.  I suggest that you read my most recent (3 June 2025) free book, Many Scientific Enigmas Have New Solutions (MSEHNS).  It or MSEHNS is available as a 200 page pdf file from my sites https://gravityunveiled.home.blog/ or https://gravity-wheel.neocities.org/.  The book didn’t contain information about the HH+ spoken of in the above video about an attempt to produce the Meyer fuel cell.  I made my own best guesses about what was going on with respect to the unknown catalyst HH+.

Free Energy Devices.  Here are some comments that may expand the thinking of some people regarding free energy devices.  We should not be critical of the Meyer fuel cells, when plenty of energy/power is being created in the sun in the form of gravity.  Energy in the form of light can be produced on the sun from some of the energetic gravity.  The energy produced could be called free energy, if you count the energy from gravity, as being free.  Each smallest portion of gravity is in the form of a two-part graviton.  Upon being absorbed, each of the two parts of a graviton attractively pull downward using discrete impulses on its own smallest portion of charged matter.  The sun is effectively a perpetual energy-productive device or a free energy device.

Lie of Sun’s Energy from Nuclear Fusion.  There is a big lie being propagated that the sun gets its energy from nuclear fusion reactions deep down within the sun.  Any energy produced deep within the sun should reasonably result in colder temperatures, when there is greater exposure to the ultra-cold background temperature of space, which should occur as elevation on the sun increases.  The lie is thus easily manifest by the observations that the temperatures seen coming from the sun actually increase as elevation on the sun increases.  That is completely contrary to the supposed idea that the sun gets its energy from nuclear reactions deep down within the sun.  Sunspots are deeper, darker, and cooler than the approximate 6000 degrees Kelvin photosphere.  The edges of the sun’s atmosphere emit radiations 1,000,000 degrees Kelvin or 10,000,000 degrees Kelvin at the furthest edges of the solar atmosphere.  The sun doesn’t get its energy from nuclear fusion reactions deep down within it.  See pp. 22, 25-26, 121-122, and 125-126 of MSEHNS.

Sun’s Energy from Bessler Principle.  The sun actually gets its energy from the Bessler principle.  The Bessler principle says that a wheel rotating about a horizontal axis (relative to the gravitons) obtains extra rotational kinetic energy from the two separate discrete pull-down impulses of each discrete graviton.  For normal wheels, we usually don’t see the extra rotational kinetic energy because friction usually removes it and even more energy.  See some details on pp. 31-34 in MSEHNS.  The basic idea of the Bessler principle is that the discrete graviton is composed as two discrete electric fields coming from oppositely charged most-fundamental spirit-matter.  A nucleus is composed of a large number of most-fundamental spirit-matter-charged-particles.  The spirit-matter-charged-particles are extremely fine, since they form the basis of both matter and antimatter.  For a nucleus rotating about a horizontal axis, there is usually a lower elevation attractive pull-down of a most-fundamental spirit-matter-charge, then followed by a higher elevation attractive pull-down of an opposite charge of most-fundamental spirit-matter.  There is a slight time delay between the lower elevation pull-down impulse and the higher elevation pull-down impulse, which allows the spirit-charge particle-pair to acquire extra rotational kinetic energy about their center of mass.  The more rapid the initial angular speed of a pair about a horizontal axis about its center of mass means that generally more rotational kinetic energy is acquired about the pair’s center of mass.  That is how the Bessler principle acquires extra rotational kinetic energy.  Again for normal wheels with friction, more rotational kinetic energy is lost to friction than is acquired by the Bessler principle so the wheel slows down.  For some cases in space, wheels the size of nuclei have very low friction so they may increase in angular speed by the Bessler principle, if they were initially rotating about a horizontal axis.  The sunspots have strong vertical magnetic fields, which cause nuclei to only rotate about vertical axes and not rotate about horizontal axes, thus they can’t acquire very little extra rotational kinetic energy by the Bessler principle.  At the far edges of the solar atmosphere, nuclei can rotate about horizontal axes with essentially no friction, thus two pull-down impulses with a slight pause between them often produce greater rotational kinetic energy.  The furthest edges of the solar atmosphere allow the least rotational interference or friction.  There a nucleus is able to rotate the most rapidly about a horizontal axis.  A nucleus rotating about a horizontal axis increases in rotational kinetic energy, until an attracted electron comes along and is struck by the rotating nucleus producing a mysterious large-energy photon associated with the observed high temperature radiation.  The temperatures of radiation from the sun are well explained by the Bessler principle.  Since the light from the sun is not dependent on nuclear fuel, the sun’s light can be produced for an extremely long time or much longer than according to prior estimates based solely on consumption of nuclear fuel producing energy from the sun.  See pp. 80-81, 86-87, and 132-134 of MSEHNS.

Bessler Principle Evidence.  The Bessler principle can be inferred from many phenomena, observations, devices, and experiments.  See such in my book, MSEHNS.  In MSEHNS, I explain or reference my solutions/explanations of 89 different types of scientific enigmas.  I used simple reasonable principles to do the explanations.  Without the simple reasonable principles, we wouldn’t have solutions/explanations for the 89 enigmas, pp. 162-163 of MSEHNS.  Most of those solutions/explanations came from on the Bessler principle.  The Bessler principle provided the understanding for solving many other enigmas beyond the more obvious Bessler principle puzzles.  I have long suggested a couple of especially convincing/proving experiments regarding the Bessler principle:

(1) Rotate a rotationally new cylinder about its axis of rotational symmetry in space near the plane of the centers of the earth, the moon, and the sun with the cylinder’s rotational axis also corresponding to the cylinder’s axis of rotational symmetry being perpendicular to the plane to see if the angular speed increases, pp. 85-86, 150-152, and 121-123 of MSEHNS.

(2) Replicate a small simplified version of the 1968 McKinley low-friction demonstration to see if the angular speed increases, pp. 26-27 of MSEHNS, or see pp. 142-146 of GWU (my free pdf book, Gravity-Wheel Unveiled, Alden Park, 18 Mar 2019, 712 pages available at my blog site, https://gravityunveiled.home.blog/) until there is equilibrium with forces slowing down the wheel.  Lead at liquid helium temperatures excludes all magnetic fields so an extremely low-friction rotational-bearing (with magnets covering its axles) can be created.

I am not aware of anyone doing either of these experiments, despite the importance of such experiments.

Energy Productive Devices.  I have contributed to explanations of how various energy productive devices can extract energy from gravity by means of the Bessler principle.

(1) I explained how the Orffyrean roller bearing may be constructed so that with a pair of such bearings we can have modern versions of the Bessler wheels, pp. 102-111 of MSEHNS.

(2) I provided information left out of the Papp patents, which should allow the Papp engines to work, pp. 62-79 of MSEHNS.

(3) I explained how the GEET reactors work (if they have plenty of cool water available for continual use in rotationally ripping apart cool water vapor), pp. 36-54 of MSEHNS.  Normal fuels should be used to initially get them to running, when oxygen is available for combustion.

(4) I explained how the fuel cells invented by Stanley Meyer used short pulses of increasing horizontal electric fields to create rotational resonances about horizontal axes to allow gravity to rotationally-rip-apart the electrically polar water molecules, using very little input energy (except for rotational kinetic energy supplied by two-part gravitons), pp. 170-175 of MSEHNS.  I didn’t understand about the use of the catalyst, HH+, until I heard about it in the video.  From there I figured out how HH+ might be produced and be used.

(5) I explained how one can produce high temperature artificial suns, pp. 135-139, to produce much steady heat.

(6) I explained how Ed Leedskalnin built his energy-productive Sweet Sixteen family of cylinders, pp. 87-91 of MSEHNS, which he used to build his Rock Gate Park (now called Coral Castle).

(7) I explained how the Yildiz magnet motors (which are existing perpetual motion devices powered by energetic gravity) continually produce power, p. 35 of MSEHNS.

(8) I explained how the sun produces its radiant energy (as an existing perpetual motion device powered by energetic gravity) continually producing power.

For more details on these and many other devices and phenomena, see the respective Index and Contents for MSEHNS and GWU.

Basic Physics.  Let us take a peek at some the basic physics.  Though many rejected his 1954 comments to his good friend Besso, Einstein was prepared to give up on contiguous structures, as the basis of physics.  I think that was likely after he heard the anomalous results in Allais’ observations during the total solar eclipse of 30 June 1954 (possibly suggesting that gravity coming from the sun can be absorbed within the moon).  He was prepared to give up his theories of relativity.  Why might that be?  If gravity from the sun could be absorbed within the moon, then the curvature of his spacetime would somehow be absorbed during a total solar eclipse.  I suppose he considered that spacetime structure/geometry/curvature could not be absorbed or temporarily shadowed by an eclipse.  I suppose he figured that his theory of gravity might be completely wrong, if gravity could be absorbed by matter.  There is modern evidence of gravity being absorbed in matter.  A discrete graviton could be absorbed by matter providing attractive impulses during absorption.  How could one formulate a discrete theory of gravity?  I attempted a discrete theory of everything (in my free book, GWU) based upon two types of finest most-fundamental charged-matter and two types of discrete electric fields either coming from or being absorbed by the matter.  That could mostly be the basic physics in a nutshell with all forces built up from that framework.  Still, kinetic energy would never be conserved, when a discrete electric field is absorbed by a smallest bit of finest most-fundamental charged-matter (or spirit-matter).  All forces are inherently energy non-conservative.  On a gross scale of matter and electric fields, that might allow for gross conservation of energy (as many people argue for) but there is a major energy exception regarding gravity being absorbed in rotating objects.  A graviton is composed of two discrete electric fields coming from oppositely charged spirit-matter.  A graviton is quite rare when it comes from small portions of matter, since it depends upon five formation constraint conditions (two extremely precise angular constraints, two spatial offset constraints, and a timing constraint).  The graviton travels in a straight line until five absorption constraint conditions are attained.  Each of the two discrete electric fields in a graviton being absorbed has two spatial offset constraints (with respect to its intended absorbing spirit-matter-charge) and there is a timing offset constraint, according to the absorptions occurring when the two spirit-matter charges are actually present.  Gravity is attractive, since each discrete electric field is absorbed by a spirit charge opposite to the one which gave it its origin.  The 10 constraints explain why gravity is so extremely weak relative to the electric forces underlying gravity.  An electric force only has two spatial-offset absorption constraint conditions.  Those 10 curious constraints (and especially the last five) provide an important Bessler principle of every wheel rotating about a horizontal axis acquiring more rotational kinetic energy about a horizontal axis than it initially had.  The effect is increased by having higher initial angular speed.  Normally extra energy is not readily observed because of nearly ubiquitous friction, nevertheless there is more energy if carefully accounted.  Typically for moving/rotating objects, the higher elevation spirit-matter-charge slightly moves between the times in which the lower elevation spirit-matter-charge suddenly absorbs a discrete electric field of a graviton and the higher elevation spirit-matter-charge suddenly absorbs the other discrete electric field of the graviton.  The situation is rotational-kinetic-energy non-conservative for matter rotating about a horizontal axis.  When the Bessler principle is used, it almost always increases energy.  The graviton including its absorption is a quantum process, though operating at a much finer scale.

Infinities Await.  We live in an infinite universe with space increasing and matter increasing, as we can see in MSEHNS or GWU.  I explain how such things are possible.  In our infinite universe, we never need to worry about having insufficient new matter, new energy, and new space.  We never need to worry about running out of matter, energy, and space.  In eternity, any initial portion of matter will be ancestral matter to an infinite amount of descendant matter.  As a graviton pulls down on light, that leaves behind two tiny opposite charges of new-spirit-matter in their own new space.  Enough concentrations of spirit-matter condense into hydrogen and not into anti-hydrogen by the spirit-matter being obedient to God.  That is why there is relatively so little antimatter in our infinite universe.  20251028AEP